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Conversation Upon "Double Slit" Consciousness

2/15/2015

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           Don't have anything about the double slit experiment, so I thought I'd add something on it.



Person A:    "thats how I approached the topic of nonlocal consciousness, we do it all the time even though we might be unaware, when you study a subject like math, you have two cognitive processes going on, you turn your thoughts inward and go into nonlocal consciousness (the wave state), if you don't grasp the material its because you didn't transfer that information into the particle state"


Person B:   "hmm..  the wave state is also a particle state..  but, it's just a matter of point of view essentially.. I understand your meaning, though."


A): "thats another thing Lommel brought up, its like you have all these thoughts going on in the elecromagnetic field and the way you bring those thoughts into the particle state is by focusing your attention on them long enough"


B): "well..  that line of reasoning is highly metaphorical. For example, what does he mean by the wave state, and the particle state? It is well known the nature of all matter to be both waves and particles. It's hard to separate the same thing into different things. A single electron is both a wave and a particle simultaneously..

A "wave state" and "particle state" is not really physics at all..  it's a metaphor that determines the "measurement state." ...  A particle can imply a point of focus within a field, but it's not an absolute among all people. For example, I can stick my head in an electromagnetic field and perceive a whole bunch of thoughts without having to focus on them. I have to focus to NOT perceive them all at once, depending on the type of field it is. It's like testing out a stun gun, but to the brain instead. LOL ..."  [Just to clarify, it's a little known science or methodology to electrically induce a disruption to the mind of a Human being, using technology. The Montauk project dealt with mind control and brainwave disruption / counter-programming, etc]


A):   "if I remember I believe he connected it to the double slit experiment where the particle/wave duality depended on the consciousness of the observer"


B):   "um..  no. yes, but no. It's a paradox, not a duality. It depends upon how a measurement is made. not necessarily upon the consciousness of the observer. You cannot separate the two states."


A):   "people must be using the wrong terms then to explain something thats legit. I've also heard it called "particle/wave coexistence", that could be more appropriate"


B):   "But chemistry typically deals with an objective electron (particle) study, versus say.. wave interferometry which deals mainly with the wave action of particles..  it's not to say that the particles make waves, it's to say that the waves themselves, as well as particles, are not really objects at all."


A):  "yes"


B):  "The double slit experiments shows that particles and waves are the same state. If you are looking for a particle, you'll find it. If you are looking for a wave you'll find it. That's the only difference, in regard to how a measurement is made..  not in the reality of matter itself.

The double slit experiment further shows that an electron can literally be in two places at once, as a particle. That is also the principle behind a stereo radio. It's a concept called "quantum tunelling." Doesn't really have anything to do with "tunnels" though ..."


A):  "doesn't it also show that no matter how the electrons are fired at the screen they still form a pattern?"


B):  "Yeah, a wave interference pattern."


A):  "I just had a thought - what you said about the double slit experiment proving an electron to be in two places at once as a particle could explain ghosts, OBE's, bi-location - people being seen in two places simultaneously"


B):  "bi-location, super-positioning. Stereo radio, teleportation, yep. By now, the double slit experiment is so well known..  and all the philosophical aspects about it have been thought about. Quantum tunneling is the phenomena that the electron can be in two places at once. That's also in part a definition of exotic matter


A):  "also, some people cannot see the connection between the double slit experiment and NDE's, OBE's or how consciousness is non-local. The double slit experiment as proof is the analogy in that how consciousness functions is just like how the electrons behave in the double slit experiment."


B):  "First they would have to see the relation between consciousness and matter, as reality itself."


A): "yeah, from there, it ties into reincarnation, someone in a book or article I read said "if it can be proven that consciousness flees the physical body when we experience death, is it possible for consciousness to enter an unborn fetus?"


B): "yeah well..  the body is also consciousness."


A): "yeah, the NDE accounts of people say that when they shed the physical body they found themselves hovering above their lifeless physical body."


B):  "What is it that actually leaves the body .. hmm..  well..  some call it the soul, some the spirit, some the awareness, some the consciousness. what is it? What are we? We are obviously not our bodies, but can it really be claimed that the body holds our spiritual essence, while we in fact co-create our bodies? 

You can travel out of your body for sure. Lots of things to consider. We are entangled with our bodies..  Silver cord ... I prefer to think of the Kundalini itself which is more or less who we are, as the "point of reference" of a soul experiencing physical life in a body. That's also from experience and a need to understand .. for my mind to "put my finger" on what cannot be physically touched .. so to speak. 

Obviously who we are also surrounds us, and we can resonate. Resonance itself is being in multiple places at once. Certainly there is that reflection, otherwise there would be no resonance. Like the electron being two places at once, and in harmonic wave-vibration with other electrons.

Sometimes they can act as one large macro electron..  that's rarely seen, in some experiments that are not publicly known, but nonetheless how the micro also behaves as macro .. some may not believe, but it's fairly obvious if you think about it. Particle physics is the micro breakdown of what we observe in macro reality. Getting a bunch of electrons to vibrate and behave as one electron is music, vibration, sound, light ..  fairly common sense. Harmonic resonance. That's more of an exotic state of matter though.


A): "In the consciousness beyond life book, Pim Von Lommel mentions that when we communicate effectively and resonating with another we are accessing information non-locally"


B):  "I'll agree with that. There have been experiments where some people with a certain magnetic property in their brain, can match the brainwaves of someone nearby, and access personal memories of the other person. Some experiments have shown that also, non-locally being separated by thousands of miles. I participated in such an experiment, although it was very intrusive and uncomfortable to me. It took a Tesla tower to achieve it, though."


A):  "I believe that was mentioned in some book I read. Something about how when we're in tune with our emotions and energetic field we can access someone else's akashic record"


B): "Yes. It's nothing that violates privacy, either. It is pure perception and knowing. If you can't gain a feel about who you're talking with for example, then how can you discern? It's not necessarily a perception of "peering inside another," but more of an introspective thing of its own right. Thus, no violation of privacy. The only fear there is judgment, and is one's perception accurate, or distorted by one's own waves of emotions and thoughts. That's why, as you say, being in tune with one's own emotions and energetic field, and being centered and non-biased with detachment doesn't so much remove a risk of judgment, but allows for a clear perception. 

Although no perception of another is going to be 100% accurate. There will ALWAYS be variations. That was put to the test for me in that experiment I mentioned. Someone knew an awful lot about my private thoughts and experiences; but, they had a margin of error when they related it back to me, particular concerning one important detail involving a description of a dream character of "mine." Yes, that was the depth of the intimacy involved. 

What's worse is that remote influencing is also something to guard against if it's not wholesome and loving and positive!

Remove viewing is also another practice that shows just how non-local consciousness really is.
Major Ed Dames was involved in creating a CIA remote viewing program and system that could be taught to others and duplicated experimentally. His groups remote viewed 2034 being a time when a solar flare would destroy Earth; AND, they could not remote view beyond that point into the future. 

Since there is always going to be distortion that can actually be factored in, after all it must be accounted for, then it could be a symbolic representation of something ENTIRELY different!

Mostly however, remote viewing as a practice is very, VERY accurate.







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Free Will and Belief

2/6/2015

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                                                                                                            Updated! (2/20/15)


In combat, always assume you have Free Will. It's important!  

Here is something to consider about free will and quantum mechanics:


Person A:  "In Hugh Everett's quantum many worlds universe, which in all probability we inhabit, all possibilities are realized.  Every choice you can make, you do make, all of them.  So if all paths are taken, what sense does it make to say you did this or that?  You do everything.  Ergo, your free will is an illusion."


Person B:  "You don't take ALL paths at once, but only those relative with the possible free-will choices and decisions that you can make. There are things that you personally would NOT do.  Like I don't think you would do some extreme example that results in something terribly bad. So you wouldn't take ALL paths that are possible. Would you?

If you did take all paths possible, at some point, you wouldn't even be you anymore.

What would you NOT do? If someone came up to you and said, I can give you a sex change  ...  would you do it? Would you agree and consent to it? According to you, you certainly would. Really it makes you the butt of all kinds of jokes. Anyone can say anything about you, and it would be true, because you end up doing it in some parallel reality at some point. What about a head transplant? You can certainly explore that possibility, but if it ended up going very badly, then you would decide not to. You can't just make a claim that you'd give up all form, if you are in the form of a Human. All things do not happen all at once, all through time, BECAUSE of Free Will. And there are limitations which is what actually maintains the physical Human reality. If all choices were available to you, then yeah..  you could do the whole grandfather's paradox and go back in time and never be born and not have an extended family."


Person A:  "I don't know that it is meaningful to talk about "you being you" or "me being me".  We're just a matter of circumstance and part of a much broader picture.  People cling to the idea of free will because it makes them feel like there is meaning and purpose to their existence.  The only meaning your life has is the meaning you give it."


Person B: "My point was that you were denying the fact that you also co-determine your reality. You create your own reality! Your power of choice and decision goes a very long way. You can't be without free will, because you have the ability to think for yourself, make decisions.

But surely, you do see the logic of what I was suggesting in a hypothetical reality?  What about hypothetical realities? How do they factor in, when all paths are taken at all times? Really? If we can go to other stars and fly through pure light, then we put ourselves into a nonspace of all time, where everything can happen, anything can happen, and all at once..  But it is illogical for you to fly to another star through pure light, and return to Earth which is nothing like what you expected. Your very expectations place you into dimensions of causality that after a certain point, do not apply because the boundaries of identity have everything to do with purpose for action to act. If action established something, an identity, then that identity is bound without a parameter of action, and to exceed those perameters would deny the very aspect of causality that called it into existence to begin with.

 If you throw a ball, you have created action. The purpose of that action is for the ball to be thrown. However, there is a wide degree of variations that the ball can travel -- that is the identity of the action..  the ball travelling. There is a quantum possibility though, that the ball could actually reverse directions and come back over your head, and fly outside the ballpark behind you. The math shows that. Nonetheless, the purpose of that ball is to travel in the general direction that you have tossed it, depending upon your aim.

Purpose does apply, because one's life is similar to the ball being thrown. Does that make sense?"


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The very nature of the law depends upon one's free will to accept or not, to consent or not, to agree, or not.

Sometimes the consciousness and subconsciousness can conflict. Sometimes, something can be done to me without my conscious knowledge and consent; am I a victim to it, or was it always in my power to change the negative outcome? Are all truths self evident? When your Soul grabs you by the short-hairs and shakes you and says, "You'd better change or else," then well..  you know who has free will, and who has to do what he's told. ..  the Human ego does not necessarily have complete free will because denial is necessary to even form a sense of self (I am not the trees, I am not the rocks, I am not you, etc). A baby rocks back and forth to determine what moves with, and what moves against or contrary with the baby's "self." That determines a self identity. Action determines the identity, and establishes the identity, otherwise there is nothing upon which action could act.

There is no real randomness that does not exist without purpose to be such. The inherent nature of instability allows for balances to be created, and stable form to be created, which requires a force applied upon it to maintain the balance. Stable-instability is that concept.. such as if you take a step to walk, you must lose your balance forward to regain it. 

Free Will must work similarly. Yet it is also determined by boundaries of the identity, of what one has set upon oneself (boundless limitation). Belief also determines the reality of Free Will. 

Purpose can sometimes supersede Free Will, or compliment Free will (Purpose of Action). And where are the boundaries of what you create, versus what another creates? What if "stable-instability" can mean different things in different arenas? No action can exist without purpose; action establishes. Paradoxically, all things exist for the highest good of all life everywhere. The simple reason/explanation is because of the purpose of the universe. The universe cannot cease to exist, because of the purpose of time -- why time exists, and what time does. Because of time, the universe suddenly ceasing to exist is not for the highest good of Life, of Honoring the Life Force of Existence, in that relation.

Free Will is a highly debatable topic! It does not mean control, and control itself is an illusion, a power play and drama for attempting to realize the boundaries of Free Will.

I don't believe anything is an absolute. In a sense, when the land we stand on, and the air we breathe also in part defines the existence of a Human being, where indeed is Free Will established? I think conflict and harmony are deciding factors of resonance and/or discord, especially when it comes to honoring and respecting the Life Force energies of the universe and of nature. When in harmony, free will applies in cooperation. When in discord, Free Will becomes absolutely necessary to maintain, and to Know that one has.



Simply put, it's the Soul which has has Free Will. "All things are allowed" however does not necessarily qualify modern terms for free will anymore when tyranny is no longer allowed. When people realize the universe is Love, darkness can no longer reign supreme. When you realize you are a Soul, then the nature of your free will decisions and choices does not influence just your "self." You are not your body. You create your body. Honor the Life Force.



Belief has a part in quantum physics. Where one expects to measure an electron, one will find it (the electron in a box experiment; the box has two ends you can find one electron in. It will be in the end you expect to find it, every single time). If you believe you will find the electron where you expect it to be, then energy is intentionally manifested; belief is the will of the observation which fuels the requirement for it to exist where it is observed.

Ideas are the very framework of our reality. When we consider our thoughts and intention can pilot a special aircraft, and our thoughts and intention can manifest energy in a machine (such things have been suppressed and made to disappear), so that in resonance it generates more ...  then it seems that belief is very important in a field of exploration of science. Many people do not belief advanced scientific principles because they cannot understand them.

It's important to form beliefs, and it cannot be avoided the formation of beliefs and root assumptions of reality, how the universe works, what it's about, who we are, etc. A root assumption about physical reality is that we have bodies and live on a planet. Those root assumptions play a part in the role that actually co-creates that reality. Not having beliefs one way or another and remaining neutral is the worst place to be, because free will is not exercised to more full potentials, and the force of your creative potential is stomped down by your own power that you don't believe you have.




Intentional Energy (the energy of directed thought, intention, and will -- the act of Perception) can create energy in a machine which through resonance increases it's power output, generating electricity.


Such physics (meta-physics) do not necessarily deserve a debate of duality, with a conflict of does it exist or does it not exist, is it true or false, because regardless it is a real thing to discuss. A paradoxical unification of the two equal/opposite events as a "third" unified reality should be more appropriate in the natural universe. 







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